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"Yet we have people condoning forcing others to strip. Clubs are doing
the same. Some force people to be naked when they would rather not.
Worse still, all naturist clubs bar a handful refuse admission to
their bars, restaurants and dancehalls unless you are dressed. All
these are ANTI-naturist and are entitled to no place in the community.
Yet they seem to make up the majority of the lifestyle."
I think some of these places need to make up their minds as to how they want
to market themselves. Are they "clothing optional" or are they "strictly
nude only, weather permitting"? They've got to be clear because if they
ever get a visit from a legal studies student and start enforcing them to go
nude, the student could have a field day with them.
"They are worse than mainstream society, who at least are not part of
nudism, therefore have no responsibility to it. For people within the
lifestyle to tyrannise others is destroying naturism and is
I have no problem with going to 'nude only' places as well as 'clothing
optional' places as long as the policies are enforced for everybody, and not
just on any given day. However, I think clubs with blanket 'must strip'
rules are what keep a lot of people out, especially the women and younger
people as you will see later on in this post.
"Who are these people. Well mainly they are tyrannical fascists or
simply nobodies. The former use naturism for no other reason but to
bully others. The second are abject failures in the rest of their
lives, so they join the lifestyle to play at wielding power they do
not naturally possess. Collectively they are parasites on the
I would say that it is the latter as I have yet to meet any club or venue
owner that has used physical force on anybody who refused to go naked
because they wanted them to. If naturism is about freedom, then surely it
ought to be about the individual's freedom to choose their right to be
dressed or undressed? By employing bullying tactics it substitutes one form
of oppression for another. One person's freedom is not another person's
"The day the lifestyle is led by people who protect the basic human
right and freedom of all naturists to dress as they wish is the first
day somebody in the lifestyle can cast the first stone."
If there is one event which comes close to true naturism that I know of, it
is ConFest (Americans have Commfest, Burning Man and the British have the
Big Green Gathering). The organisers leave it up to the individual to
decide on their own level of nudity as well as ConFest and BGG endorsing
'green', 'natural' and 'eco friendly' approaches to life.
"Until then, we are all liars, hypocrites and tyrants. We have a long
road to true nudism / naturism."
Agreed. I have met many newcomers to ConFest who went along because of
their desire to try something new with their lives, including nude
recreation and they said "Now why can't the rest of the world be like this?"
The first time I went to ConFest in 2006 there were about 3,000 people there
all going about their daily activities nude or dressed as they pleased. The
Australian Nudist Convention which was held around the same time got only
100 people turning up - so what does that have to tell us?